In this episode, Intuitive Coach and Energy Healer Jacki Beem joins me to talk about what it really takes to become a vibrational match for the life you want, how to finally clear the energetic blocks that keep your reality on repeat, and the truth about the line between delusion and aligned action.
In this episode, we talk about:
- building a relationship with your intuition
- clearing energetic blocks and unprocessed emotions
- the difference between delusion and aligned action
- becoming a vibrational match for the reality you want
- healing shame using the map of consciousness
- why frequency comes before strategy in business
- going from attorney to energy healer
- creating your own psychic dictionary
- taking full accountability for your reality
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Full Episode Transcript
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Sasha Pearl: Think everybody at some point is like, I'm not a vibrational match for that mess or for being treated like this. And it's like, well, somewhere you are, somewhere, whether you want it or not. Just imagine every single cell in your body is vibrating at a certain pace or frequency. And all of these cells and all of this physical matter in your body is really only just a tiny portion of you. The rest of it is space. Like 90 plus percent of this is space that the universe high frequency energy moves through. What if? We only needed to become a vibrational match to the reality that we want to create. Today on the podcast, I have Jackie Bean from High Wat Living, who is an intuitive coach and energy healer. We discuss all things building a relationship with your intuition, how to clear energetic blocks, and the real meaning around being delusional and believing in the Energy of infinite possibilities. As always, I'm your host, Sasha Pearl, the Energy Architect, and I guide soul ed women in building authentic six-figure businesses online by aligning their identity, their brand, and their content using my Highly Potent Method. But before we get into the episode today, I just wanted to mention my human first content intensive. It is a 90-minute call with moi, where we dive deep into your social media and anywhere you are creating. Content. By the end of it, you will have your specific playbook, your roadmap to success, and a new direction to really start making content feel like fun again. The link to learn more is going to be in the show notes below. Let's get into it. Today on the podcast, we have Jackie Beam. She is a 6-2 generator with sacral authority. She is an intuitive coach and energy healer. Welcome to the podcast. Thanks for having me. I would love to hear more about your journey into energy healing, especially since you know, where you were before. Yeah. Yeah. So I ⁓ you know, when you're little and and people say, ⁓ what you want to be when you grow up? I feel like in my generation nobody knows what an energy healer is. You don't know it exists. So you're not gonna be like, I'm gonna be an energy healer. Literally Literally, no. That's not that's not on the the formula for success manual. Right. So growing up, I kind of knew that what I wanted to do was just be successful. I knew I wanted to have I w wanted to work in business, but I wanted to be successful and I wanted to not worry about money and I wanted to do something I liked. I didn't know what that was. So I went to law school and became an attorney. And that was just gonna be the route I was gonna take. And I just was so unhappy and and I was finding myself just really out of alignment. You know, I had done all the things that are supposed to make you successful and none of the areas of my life were working. Like I was just so totally out of alignment with who I actually am and what my natural gifts and talents and desires even are. And so I started kind of dabbling into the world of, you know, energy healing or ⁓ you know, coaching, personal growth, all that. I started just dabbling into Just dabbling. Just dabbling. I suppose to be doing spreadsheets for my firm. You know, I'm just like, let's listen to this audio from this coach just to get my vibe up. Cause I just, you know I found that listening to stuff and just getting into the vibration of where someone else was at was so helpful. And so I just found myself reading all the books, listening to all the webinars, co going to any free stuff and going to all the events and that was just kind of my hobby. And then I got an opportunity to do an intuition ⁓ intuitive life coach training. And I was like, you know, I'm just gonna do this for myself. I'm not gonna become a coach or anything, but I wanna learn how I knew I was intuitive, but I I wanted to really learn how to really, really be intuitive and how to move energy and how to see energy and all that stuff. And because I knew that the I knew that the ability was in there, but it wasn't it wasn't cultivated and it wasn't nurtured and all that stuff. So I just did an intuitive life coach training program. And ⁓ during that program, I mean, I'm a lawyer full you know, as my job, but on the side I was like taking on my friends as little practice buddies, like, hey, I want to practice this. Can you let me work on you? And every single one of them was like, ⁓ my gosh, you have to do this. And all the people that I was doing practice sessions on in that class were like, You have to do this. And they all knew I was miserable as an attorney. And so I just kind of kept, I just kind of kept practicing and kept doing it. And people started referring their friends. And so a business almost forced itself upon me. I was like, I guess I need to find a way for them to pay me and get a PayPal account and get a website. And so I kind of started it as this thing that was never intended. And then it it really just became, you know, I I loved it so much and I have such a passion for it. And it's really what I'm built for. And ⁓ I just found myself taking one one step and then a door open and then I take another step and a door open. And then as you know, when you anytime you have a business, it's your spiritual practice. It's gonna show you everywhere you've got junk and programming and limitations. So I just luckily the nature of this work is to dive into all that and push into the edge of that and clear all your stuff. And so Just kept going and kept going and kept going and built it into something that I really love today and where I've served a lot of people and I've been able to, you know, have a successful career. So very unintended path for me, but I can't imagine it any other way. Yeah. I mean, that's so like literally going from an attorney into an energy healer, like feels like mind boggling to me. I'm just like 'cause ⁓ You just like want all the actual data and facts of things that you're constantly researching and like getting all the things where energy healing is just so it can be so abstract, right? Right. And I think that's why I've been able to have success with ⁓ getting a lot of really great clients, because they live in that 3D world, right? They live in that world of like, okay, we still have that cause and effect world, right? Data still is important and being able that what the intuition does is it gives you an ability to see 10 steps ahead. So it's like, okay, here's what data shows, or here's what the logistics and the logic shows. And then here's where it's headed. I I love doing the energy work because you can be like, okay, I can see where it's headed. Let's shift me, what's going on inside of me that's got me headed there and shift that around and walk that path. But yeah, most people who meet me are they always tell like I can't picture you as an attorney. I don't know if I should be insulted by that, but I'm not. But Wait, okay, so how long have you been an energy healer then and intuitive coach? ⁓ I did my intuitive life coach training in twenty twelve. So Fourteen years? I'm like, what's the math on that? Okay, amazing. My own business for twelve? Thirteen. Okay. Yeah. So okay. So funny because it was secret for so long. Cause I I while I was working at my law firm, I'm like, okay, every Monday at five I have to do this thing. Don't worry about me. I feel like it's so I kept my business a secret for so long because you can't have somebody Googling your name as an attorney and then like, What? She's an attorney. ⁓ my god. So wait. ⁓ Wait, so how long did what did you keep it secret for? Two almost three years. Yeah. I was training for a year and then I was practicing for a year. And then I kinda like the business just started and I was just, yeah. So yeah, two or three years. Yeah, I keep saying like I human design has been in my life for what, nine years or so? But I did training like two or three years ago and I ca I would say I was like in the spiritual closet. Like I Everyone knew that I was like a magical little intuitive girly pot, but I was I was like, No, no, I'm not I'm not that. I'm not that. And finally I was like, Okay. There's so I just had to do it. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I was like, it doesn't the depth of the work doesn't hit my s like my soul level anymore when it's not when it's not going into the energetic portions and like using this like framework to back to your soul. Right. I know you don't know much about your human design, but you said something where you're like, ⁓ what's that 10 years? Like down the like I can see the 10 year pattern for you energetically. you have gate forty four, which is the fear of the past repeating itself. But the intuitive gift is being able to truly see the patterns and trends so you don't repeat it again. And I just like that's like your core gift. That's like eighty percent of your design. Wow. And that's exactly what you're you're doing with the work that you do. Wow. Interesting. I know. It's so fascinating. What is the thing forty four? Yeah, gate forty four. Yeah. I don't know I don't know the gate. So I was actually just stalking you as you two before a podcast. And first of all, we met for anyone who we we just met today on the podcast, which is so exciting. But I met you through Cynthia Stemation. And we were on the podcast doing clearing energy money blocks for me and me my money came as a clown, et cetera. But you are her coach. And so did she learn a lot of those intuitive practices and, you know, understanding her energetics through you and your programs? Yeah, yeah. You know, I can't say that it's all me because she's pretty magical. ⁓ and I know she's done a lot of ⁓ trainings and and life coach stuff too. But yes, she did my intuition mastery and coach training program where I where I train intuitive coaches. So my gosh. Yeah. So her her clearing energy, I think, comes from me. I mean, at least two uses, I think, comes from me, but yeah. The other ⁓ yeah, I just joined her intuitive business builder. So I was like, ⁓ wait, there's some similarities happening here, which is really cool. So as far as clearing any blocks energetically, what well, like maybe it's just like take a step back. What do you feel is the most important part about building a relationship with your intuition? With your intuition. ⁓ what is the most important thing about building that relationship? I just I can't imagine life without it, to be honest. Like, ⁓ I think the I think it's really important to practice it when there's no stakes. You know what I mean? Like I think that I feel like the stakes are so high. I have to know what's coming next, and I have to know what's what this person is thinking, and I have to know how they feel. And and I think the with my intuition mastery and coach training program. We give them the whole pro we give them the whole time. We say, just don't be afraid of being wrong. Because you have to learn how to practice because you have to learn how spirit communicates with you. You know, creating someone's energy and ⁓ you know, I might see let's let's just say an apple. And if that doesn't mean anything to me yet, I don't know what I'm seeing. So I have to learn through working with lots and lots of clients, like, okay, sometimes Apple means teacher, sometimes Apple means to me, fertility. Which I've learned, right? Or interesting. Yeah. But that's how spirit talks to me. Cause I remember one time in eighth grade learning that the apple is the ovary of the tree, right? And so when I see an apple, it's like it goes back to that knowledge that I'm already working with. So spirit communicates with each of us really differently. And so one of the most important things about intuition is just taking the time to really practice. Taking the time to just be like, Okay, I'm seeing this and this is what it means, you know? Okay. Yeah. So I've done like dream dictionaries before, but it's like it's almost like creating your own intuitive dictionary. Yep, I call it a psychic dictionary. And everybody ⁓ I love that. Okay. Everybody who doesn't class, they have to keep their own because I remember when I was practicing when I was first training, I saw like I was reading this woman's energy and I saw like shiny glass in her heart and I was like, What does shiny glass mean? I was like, ⁓ it's ⁓ ice. ⁓ she's numb. ⁓ like so was like ⁓ you you just have to learn what it means 'cause you haven't seen it before, you haven't practiced before. So I think th that's so important just to be slow with your intuition, be patient with it, and keep asking questions. Like, okay, what does that mean? Like, you know, I've had people all the time say, like, I'm having these visions of my dad dying, and it's like, Well, that does happen eventually, you know. What what might that what else might that mean? You know, is are between you and your dad dying, or are some patterns that you picked up from him. I mean, there's so many things that it could mean. And so A really important aspect of intuition is just sitting with it and just being okay, okay, it's not being literally conveyed to me like I need to sit with this for a second. What does this mean? What feels like it's here? And be patient with your intuition, be curious with your intuition and don't be afraid of being wrong. Mm-hmm. And I also love the idea of like practicing your intuition when there's no stakes involved. Well, so don't be like here I I'm charging three hundred dollars for a session, but I know nothing about Like my own psychic dictionary or really how to help you. ⁓ I find that really interesting. So as for someone who is like trying to build their intuitive ⁓ or psychic dictionary, do you have any like tools for them to practice other I mean, obviously asking like what does this mean? But a way to like almost like embody it ⁓ day to day. Okay. ⁓ What's coming up for me right away is I think one of the best things you can do for your intuition is to clear all of your own programming. I mean, because you know, the whole univ you're tapped in, you're in oneness with the whole universe. You can see anything you want to be able to see, but that that information comes through you and goes through all of your projections, all of your patterns, all of your programming, all of your unprocessed emotions, all of your beliefs about life. So, you know, it's you as the translator. might be getting it wrong. Have you ever, I don't know if you've ever watched, I think it's what's that lady Teresa Caputo. She always talks about how like, I might I am seeing something. I don't know if what I'm making it mean is right. But that's what a lot of people who are do that's what a lot of people are doing with their intuition is like they'll see something and they'll think, ⁓ that must mean this. And it's like if it's going through all of your patterns, it's it's getting filtered and you really it's sometimes it's not intuitive. Like I've had so many women say like My intuition says I really need to stay with him. And it's like, no, that's your junk. That's your fear. That's your programming. That's your resonance with somebody who's like this. There's so many reasons why you have that strong feeling that something's true, but it's not true, true truth. It's protecting. So I th interesting. One of the most important things you can do for your intuition is just to clear all of your patterns and get into more oneness with that. God, universe, pure source energy, pure consciousness, so that you're you're really, you know, on point with it. Okay, so you're going so going into clearing the project projections ⁓ within energetic projections within yourself. How what's something that we could do to do that? And how do we know maybe this is such a three D question, but how do we know when we're clear? Well the short answer is most people don't. ⁓ because you're just I mean, you're human. You're designed to stay alive, right? So all you've learned all these things and all these ways of being. You've got all these things going on in your brain that say, okay, danger, danger, danger, danger, danger, right? ⁓ one of the things I help people to do, like you know the clairs, I'm assuming, right? Claire, clear audience, clairsence, clear cognizance, ⁓ all those. ⁓ to To kind of clear out all of those clears, you kind of want to just look at, like, okay, so ⁓ let's say clairvoyance, right? Being able to see, clear seeing. ⁓ your third eye, your ability to see might be blocked, or you might have a filter because at times in your life people said, No, don't look at that, or I can't don't don't see that, right? Like, let's say Or there was something going on that you didn't want to be seeing. Let's say you're this little kid and your parents are fighting, your energy says, like, ⁓ gosh, I don't want to see that. So you put energy up, right? You still physically see it, but you put energy up saying, like, ⁓ gosh, I don't want to see that. That's so painful. That's so hard. Or if you're being abused, or if if you're being teased or bullied, or just all the things that happen as a human. Anything you ever didn't want to see is is usually like blocking the energy. So what I'll walk clients through, and I have audios that help people go through this process too. is to sit in a clearing or a meditation and look. Like all the things you didn't want to see in the past, you have to just be with them. Like the the key to being psychic is you have to 100% be with reality. Right? Like I notice a lot of people who dive really deep into politics, there's so much they're like, ⁓ I can't look at that. I can't see that. But it's like you have to be able to be with reality. You have to be with what is. Otherwise you're p you're blocking your third eye, you're putting up energetic blocks. And so it's the same with your ⁓ clear audience, right? If the angels and guides are trying to whisper into your ear, like go there, do that, or you how some people will say, like I heard a a voice saying, you know, pick up that book. You're gonna block out those those kind of intuitive whispers, those whispers from the divine, if there was if there's blockage in your ears, like if people say to you that you didn't want to hear, or ⁓ you know, the And all that stuff's in in most people, you know, you don't have to have a traumatic upbringing to have intuitive blocks. A lot of things come up too where something happens and someone's like, You didn't hear that. You didn't hear that, you know? So same with feelings and same with knowing. So ⁓ interesting. So how ⁓ 'cause from what I know about intuition too and all the Clares is like we have primary Claire's. For me, it's just ⁓ knowing. ⁓ I think listening's trying to come online. But I don't practice that. Yeah. What I in my in my intuition mastery, what I do is I I teach all of them and then I o everybody kind of knows right away, like, ⁓ this is the one I'm strongest in. And then what I do is I kind of teach people like go with that one you're strongest in, keep developing it. And then eventually the others do come online as well. Okay. And so and then and then Because you know whatever the primary one is or the one that you want to practice on the most. That's where you can be like, okay, what am I not seeing? What am I not hearing? What am I not knowing? What am I not feeling? And then whatever the other clear is. Interesting. Okay. And so it's really it seems like it's just like spending a lot of time understanding yourself more and like being really curious with the energy that is already innate, like within you. Well, and just releasing everything that's not you, right? Every belief i it that those aren't you. Those are beliefs. You're not the belief itself. You're the one observing the belief, right? So if you have any any sort of ⁓ any sort of beliefs or unprocessed emotions again, those aren't you. So it's really about just r releasing all the patterns and programming and all the energy that's not you. Mm-hmm. You know, are you are you familiar with Dick Dr. David Hawkins' scale of consciousness? I sure am. Okay, yeah. So like as you know ⁓ all energy vibrates at a certain pace or frequency. So when some of the lower vibrating energies like shame or grief or guilt, as some of those l they vibrate so low and slow that we that we start to call them a block, right? Source energy can't get in because that energy is vibrating so slow. And so releasing all the shame, releasing all the guilt, releasing all the sadness, because those energies are not you, right? Those energies are just are just lower lower vibrating frequencies that are kind of hanging out because you didn't process them, right? Something was too hard. It was too hard to feel the shame. So you didn't, so you just it's it's stuck around. Shame is the it's the lowest vibrating one. So ⁓ I always call it the low hanging fruit because it's when you get rid of shame, your overall frequency goes up so high, so much higher just with the one release. And again, that's that's pretty much what being intuitive is it just being sensitive to frequency. ⁓ I love that. You are. That's yeah, we ⁓ it's intuitive. Yeah, I love that. I love that distinction too. ⁓ my gosh, what was in saying? ⁓ unprocessed emotions. ⁓ so going back to me stalking you earlier, ⁓ you were doing a clearing on someone, ⁓ like a past client or like a colleague or something. And something that you just said and also in that video, I was like, ⁓ that's interesting. Like, when have we decided that our emotional or unprocessed emotions are our truth? And in that, you're like, It's just energy, just move it and then and move on. And I'm like, ⁓ my God, the unlock. I was like, what? Can we just like can you just talk about that process? Cause I I'm getting chills even thinking about I'm like, I don't know. That unlock was so big for me and just watching you do that. Well, what's so funny too? If you knew me growing up, I I never had any emotions ever. Like I I played volleyball and it it literally, like my coach one time made a list of we had a really good team and we were going to state. And so he made a list of all of our strengths. And I was like, I wonder what he's gonna say about me. And he was like, does not show emotion or rattle easily. And I was like, okay. But people would comment, like, don't you ever get excited? Like, don't you ever get pissed off? And I'm like, well, I'm I d I just didn't think about it, right? Even at my dad's funeral when I was 18, I was just like, Okay, don't cry, don't cry, don't cry. I just just I just didn't know that was what you were supposed to do. Yeah. Totally. And so I think that's why energy healing was so transformative for me is because it's like, ⁓ that's actually the whole game. Like that's like literally how you s get back to being able to create your own reality and vibrate in harmony with another reality because the reality I'm seeing right now, it's just what's resonating with all of my unprocessed emotions. If I'm if let's let's go with the grief thing, right? If my dad passes away and I won't let myself cry, that grief just hangs out slowly vibrating. pulling down my overall frequency and the only thing I'm gonna be a vibrational match for is more things that give me grief. Cause I'm communicating to the universe, like, hey, this is the vibe I'm doing. This is what I'm a match for. And so once I figured out, like, ⁓ you just have to go in and feel the emotions and let them process through. They just, they started but they didn't finish. And it's so easy. I mean, it's hard. Because it hurts and it sucks, but it's so easy. All you have to do is feel. I had one client one time who was like, Can't I clear the emotions without feeling them? And I was like, It's so long, just do it. It's so all you have to do is just feel it. That's and then it's gone, like 90 seconds to two minutes max. And I mean, sometimes you're gonna have a big, huge purge, and that's just because something's probably been there for a really long time. But once you get all that processed out, again, those are really low frequencies leaving your field. making you so much more porous to God, the universe, source energy. And so you're vibrating in more resonance with the source of all energy that holds everything you should ever want to intuitively see or feel or know or sense. And so when you're in more oneness with that, you can put your you can put your mind on anything and you you you know the answers. Just like wow. Okay. So I actually wanna dive deeper into this, like can I process the emotions without feeling? So what are these like what are these blocks from people wanting to even feel in general? Like is it I feel weak if I show emotion? Or like what are those belief systems that are like blocking us from actually just feeling it so we can move the fuck on? Yeah. Different for everyone. Different for every person. For me, ⁓ I think that for me, when I when I grow when I grew up and didn't wanna feel emotion, it was because I didn't want somebody to know they got me. You know what I mean? Like it was like if I cry then you'll know you got to me. So I'm just gonna F you. Like I am so strong, right? ⁓ I thought I also thought being emotional was embarrassing. I mean, I would you you look around and you're like these people who are in their emotions all the time, they lose credibility. They look they look like they lack credibility. They're just emotional, they can't hold it together, they're not using their logic. So I had judgments on that. I've worked with a lot of people who they don't feel their emotions because they heard, you know, the the classic boomer phrase, ⁓ don't cry or I'll give you something to cry about. Damn it. ⁓ thank God we live in a different world now, Jesus. Okay. Yeah. So there's a you know, ⁓ gosh, there's I've worked with so many clients for so many years at this point. I've seen so many things, and so it's different for people, but ⁓ yeah, that was kind of for me. I was just like I just didn't know that you were supposed to feel. I literally thought like that meant you were such a more honorable person if you could just hold it in and be tough. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah. I mean, my I have a twin sister, ⁓ and she was so diabolical with her emotions. Uh-huh. But that made me have to be okay. Right. And so when I'm constantly okay, I'm okay. I wasn't never allowed to process my emotions because what would I would be another burden for my my family and, you know, siblings. And I'm just like, it wasn't until I was 27, 26, when I went to therapy for the first time and I cried for three sessions straight because it was the first time someone was like, it's okay to cry. Right. And I was like, Yeah. Well and and you think too about like our grandparents' generation, right? I mean, things are so traumatic or there's war or there's you know, you're in survival mode. You don't cry if you're sad. You work. You keep going. There's so many things. No time for that. And and the thing too is like we also like we're meeting the opposite problem right now, right? We can't just feel all the things all the time in real time. Like you have to you there's a time and a place for, you know, okay, we gotta be strong right now. We we are, you know, I I I I am leading a room full of 250 people. I can't have a breakdown right now. You know, like ⁓ that did happen to me one time where I was just like, ⁓ I'm gonna lose it after this event's over. like you have to be professional. You or if you're a mom or a dad, right? Like you don't wanna get scared because you don't want them to get scared. There's a million reasons why we don't process our emotions. ⁓ my god, I'm just like, ⁓ there's so many. So I guess when we're talking about two so if it's as simple as following the shame within the body or feeling into the emotion where there's like a lot of aliveness happening and rem like clearing it just by asking it questions or just like is it asking it questions or just like purging and crying? Does there even need to be a purge or a cry? I ⁓ just just depends on how you feel. ⁓ Let's say we're working with shame. ⁓ a lot of times what I'll do is I will ⁓ if I'm working with myself or I'm working with let's say I'm working with a client, I'll guide them to, okay, I can see usually the age and that it happened where the shame is coming from, and I can usually see ⁓ where it's at in their body. So I'll have them breathe right into that spot in their body. Or sometimes I'll say, Where do you feel heaviness right now? You know, because they'll know where it feels heavy. And then I surround that area in light, like I I use my intention to put a ball of light right on that space because a ball of light has such high frequency energy that it'll it'll penetrate whatever the kind of the shame is. It goes through all the little pores, starts to weaken the s shame's resolve. And so when you've got it in that state, then all you have to do is what what I do is I say, All right, if they sometimes they can't remember what happened, ⁓ or sometimes they're like, ⁓ nothing's coming up. So I'll walk them around their life at that age, like, all right, what was going on? ⁓ You know, let spring mom in front of you. A lot of times they do know what the shame was. So I'll just take them. You have to go right back into that reality. Like let your soul transmit you completely as though that thing is happening right now. Cause this part of you is stunted at that age. Like there is a three-year-old who is ashamed, right? And so we go right back into that moment and you and when we do that, then it becomes more ripe, right? So when you're talking about people who can't really feel it, it's because they're it's because they're here today now. We have to take them right back into that old story, right back into that young self and just be like, ⁓ gosh, this really hurt, you know, like and sometimes I'll just ask their their I'll ask their body to show me like how bad does it really hurt that dad said that, you know. Let your body show me how bad does this really hurt. And then they'll show me how, but like so sometimes they just breathe through. Like I don't notice a lot of crying with shame unless unless there's also sadness, but Clearing shame, I'm just looking at it and and I ⁓ shame is so ⁓ you know and so is guilt. You know, I went through a I went through a phase where I was like, okay, I'm just gonna clear all this stuff. Like every night I was like, let me just like go through something I feel guilty about, process it all. Just and it's just so because when you have guilt, there's also shame. It's like I'm so ashamed that I did that, you know? And so a lot of times you get you can just breathe right into that space, feel the emotion. And then as you do that, it kind of weakens and it gets felt. And then it just kind of moves right out and goes back to the source of all energy. Just like, yeah, for fun, I'm just going to go through all my guilt and my shame right before bed. No worries. I well, and that's I was so committed to like I feel like early on in life I knew that I could be the one to create my reality. Like I knew that if I put intentions on things, like I I experienced the law of attraction. really well when I was younger. And then as I became an adult, and especially after going to law school, and then, you know, your young dating experiences, your family stuff, people dying, all that, you start to be like, what happened to the magic? Like, why isn't it all happening? Why can't I just put my intentions on things anymore? And so I that was why I got so interested in energy healing and why I dove in because I was just like, no, I I need to get back to me. Like whoever, whatever all this stuff is, this isn't me. It's stuff. There's stuff that happened. And I think a lot of people ⁓ a lot of times that stuff can fuel us to go get in action. Like sometimes people we can use our trauma and use it as fuel to go help other people. And I which I mean technically I also used this and I was fueled by this. But also I was just I was like, no, I I know what it feels like when you're just in oneness with everything in the universe. You can just put your mind on something and then become a vibrational match for it via your beliefs and new emotions. And so I was like, I I wanted to get back to that. So I did a lot of work. And and even working with clients, it you know, you're working on yourself when you're working with clients too. And so I was motivated. So yeah, I when I moved from home to a ⁓ to San Diego and I was living alone and I was like, I'm gonna take advantage of this solitude and just like have scheduled breakdowns, scheduled crying. Like I had a playlist for every emotion. I was like, let's just get everything out. And so I would see different stuff that for me, like a lot of the blockage too was stuff that Again, it's not trauma. It's just like life things that happen. Like, you know, like I ⁓ you know, like this didn't work out, that didn't work out, or there's like a rejection that didn't bother me, but like if I actually were feeling things at the time, ⁓ yeah, that hurt. But right. If you're numb, it doesn't hurt. So you don't think it's bothering you. I've had so many clients show up too and they're like, Yeah. You know, my dad was never in my life, but it didn't bother me and and I believe them because it's like, yeah, you didn't know any different. But then when we really get in there, there's there's usually something that's in there that just needs to be felt, that needs to be acknowledged. Like there's a younger version of you who is hurting from that. Mm-hmm. Yeah, absolutely. Well, the reason I brought that up too is because of your Scorpio. I'm like, No, this is like what you do. You like transmute things, right? Like you are okay in the darkness and you're okay and you know how to get out to find the light again. Right. Yeah. So it's just really it's just really powerful to see that. ⁓ I would love to hear more about well, first of all, what is reality creation? And then how do we become a vibrational match for what we want in this life? Awesome. Yeah. So I always just use the phrase reality creation as like other people say manifesting. And I come across so many professionals and lawyers and people who hate that word. So I just I just don't say it anymore. I love it. No, when I read that, I was like, wait. What is that? Yeah. I love it. Yeah. Being able to consciously create your reality. Cause at all times, like every single person who's listening to this right now, like look around your life. This is what you're a vibrational match for right now. You know what I mean? And so a lot of a lot of us, and you know, I think everybody at some point is like, I'm not a vibrational match for that mess or for being treated like this. And it's like, well, somewhere you are. Somewhere there's some unworthiness, or somewhere there's an attachment that For some reason, this kind of criticism feels like love, right? There's some kind of programming that makes this resonate, whether you want it or not. And so, ⁓ when people come to me to work privately, like as ⁓ just like intuitive coaching sessions, ⁓ usually I'll start it and I'll just say, all right, e they'll they'll either tell me like where they wanna be but can't get, or they'll tell me what's going on right now that they don't like. And I'll look into like, okay, why are you a vibrational match for your current reality? Or why are you not a vibrational match for the reality you want? Okay. I've had a coach ask they're like, Well, you attracted that into your life. And I'm like, How dare you say I trust myself? How dare you? It's so triggering because it's like, ⁓ fuck, I have to take responsibility for every single aspect. And sometimes you don't want to look at it. No, and and there's I mean, and s mainstream mainstream thinking too is like, no, we need to look at everybody as victims and we need to help them. And and there's a there's a There's a there's a level of awareness for that. But also like when you take a hundred percent accountability for your reality, like truly even when nobody else would, like then you can say, okay, there's a tiny, the tiniest little shred. Like, ⁓ I if there's wildfires in LA and you're affected by them, it's like, okay, well, somewhere in my in my energy, I am a vibrational match. I created those wildfires. Like, what's going on in me? And so you look at like, okay, what is that bringing out? Or like, you know, like with the political stuff, some people will ⁓ they'll be like, this political thing's really triggering me. And it's like, okay, why are you a vibrational match for seeing that reality reflected in your world? Mm. Because a lot of people see it and it doesn't, they're like, ⁓ yeah, da-da-da-da. But for some reason this one's really grabbing you. It's like, okay, what's going on? Like there's, you know. I do I do that for myself all the time where I'm like usually I'm just I like to stay really zoomed out and try to out vibrate everything and I'm like, okay, yeah, I don't obviously there's a lot of crap that goes on. We just know that and why do we get so triggered? But then every once in a while something's like, ⁓ heck no, you know, look. I'll just be like, How am I creating that? Why is that being reflected in my reality? Why is such ugliness? Or why is ⁓ you know, people I w I did a p ⁓ political clearings, ⁓ webinar. It's I have it as an audio now, but what I found is that most people just like they're like, I just hate to see people suffer. And so it's like, okay, let's go into the suffering in you. Right. Like there's just always, always, always a thread that you have. And when you don't so many people want to reframe that and be like, so it's my fault. And it's like, no, you no, it's not your fault. But you are That's another projection you have. Yeah. It's and so I always have to coach people out of that. Like, what if this is just a game? Like what if this is just a game? Like what if I saw something horrific in my reality? Like what if somebody lived in my house that was hurting me and I couldn't stand them? And what if I felt like, no, I'm not a match for that? I would just make a game out of and be like, somewhere I am. Otherwise they'd be gone. Right? Like they'd vibrate out of my reality. And so ⁓ vibrate out of my reality. I love that too. Yeah. Yeah. Just and and so I mean, since The reason I can say it with so much confidence is because I've done it so many times. And I've worked with so many people who are like, yeah, but this is my, you know, my spouse, or this is my sister, or this is my mom, right? Like whoever it is, it's just like they can't just ⁓ I can't just leave them. And it's like, no, let's just like use the relationship. Let's make a game out of it. Let's let's see what's still tying this. And I've I can tell you hundreds of of stories where the person either kind of goes their own way or the person kind of shapes up and moves into what you're now vibrating. You know, like I've seen it a million times. And so, you know, that we also have some people who are like, let's keep working and keep working. It's like it's time for this person to be let go. Now let's look at your programming about why you're not letting go. For the most part, like you can always look inside of you. And so if you don't, if you don't take things so personally, right? If the stakes aren't so high for your ego, you can just say, all right, how am I creating this? Like Somewhere I'm a vibrational match. And it doesn't necessarily mean anything bad about you. It's just like, okay, what's this bringing up in me? And where do I know that from? Mm-hmm. So that's where it's so when you so when you create consciousness around, you know, obviously you're having like I'm in my lived reality and you know, money's not coming in here, or this relationship's not working out here. So there's something in me where I'm like, okay, there we need to look at that. And then that's where you can come in though and you can actually see where the energy is being held. And then like even like the age range of like a a need was unmet at a certain point. Either a need was unmet or you made a conclusion about how life works or who how money is or who men are or you've made conclusions, beliefs, justifications. I mean, just think about a little kid. Your environment growing up in your household, like that is your whole universe. So Everything works that way there. And then so then when you try to go out in the big world, you your possibilities are kind of limited to how you think the world is working. Right. So a lot of people can kind of just naturally grow into that by exposing themselves to different environments. But a lot of people don't, you know, because with regard to money blocks and stuff, a lot of it is money programming, like their beliefs are on money and their relationship with money. But a lot of it too is ⁓ can come from just. the family dynamics or something unique to them, you know? Like I had a a client who, ⁓ she was really left out with her family. Like she was a ⁓ she was kind of adopted and she felt like she wasn't part of the family. And so imagine kind of feeling that way all the time unconsciously, but then trying to go out in the world and feel included. Even though like everything was it was a good childhood and all that. But just imagine trying to go out and feel included and And so you're not gonna knock on the doors of the jobs you want or the clients you want, because you kind of have this thing going on inside of you that's just like, ⁓ I'm not really a part of this, you know. So everybody's limitations and energies are are really different just based on the the upbringing they had or the experiences they've had. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I also love I actually never thought about you know, the map of consciousness. And I've never really thought about the the shame piece. So it's like if we can remove the shame, then we actually just inherently quickly move up the rest of the ladder to these like more fake it's power versus force is what is the book I read. And so right you really start moving into your power, your ease, your alignment. And I think that's interesting. It's almost like how can we like follow the shame with like within ourselves and like get really curious with it and build a relationship with it to then transmute it and move it out of our field. Yeah, 'cause when you're looking at it, then it's not stuck anymore. It's it's when you ignore it and you just kinda think this is how everybody feels or this is how what life is or this is my normal, which is again, mainstream people. Most people just don't process this stuff and that's you know, that's that's how most people are functioning. But ⁓ You know, like I said, if ev just imagine every single cell in your body is vibrating at a certain pace or frequency, and all of these cells and all of this physical matter in your body is really only just a tiny portion of you. The rest of it is space. Like ninety plus percent of this is space that the the universe high frequency energy moves through. And so when you can kind of process shame, wherever there used to be shame, you fill that back in with just space for the universe government whatever you want to become in oneness to fill in, then you just kind of vibrate in harmony with that higher frequency all the time, just by default. And so it's it's really kind of just like, you know, rem releasing some of the lower frequency stuff, filling in with that light and just kind of having more of an experience just every single day where there's more miracles, there's more joy, there's more love. Like it just naturally comes, you know, like you are more naturally connected to those things that You want. I think everybody at some point is like, I'm not a vibrational match for that mess or for being treated like this. And it's like, well, somewhere you are, somewhere there's some unworthiness, or somewhere there's an attachment that for some reason this kind of criticism feels like love, right? There's some kind of programming that makes this resonate, whether you want it or not. And so, ⁓ when people come to me to work privately, like as ⁓ just like intuitive coaching sessions, ⁓ Usually I'll start it and I'll just say, All right, e they'll they'll they'll either tell me like where they wanna be but can't get, or they'll tell me what's going on right now that they don't like. And I'll look in like, okay, why are you a vibrational match for your current reality? Or why are you not a vibrational match for the reality you want? Okay. I've had a coach ask they're like, Well, you attracted that into your life and I'm like, How dare you say I trust myself? How dare you? It's so triggering 'cause it's like, ⁓ fuck, I have to take responsibility for every single aspect. And sometimes you don't want to look at it. No, and and there's I mean and s in mainstream mainstream thinking too is like, no, we need to look at everybody as victims and we need to help them. And and there's a there's a there's a there's a level of awareness for that. But also like when you take a hundred percent accountability for your reality, like truly even when nobody else would, like then you can say, okay, there's a tiny the tiniest little shred. Like ⁓ I if there's wildfires in LA And you're affected by them. It's like, okay, well, somewhere in my in my energy, I am a vibrational match. I created those wildfires. Like, what's going on in me? And so you look at like, okay, what is that bringing out? Or like, you know, like with the political stuff, some people will, ⁓ they'll be like, This political thing's really triggering me. And it's like, okay, why are you a vibrational match for seeing that reality reflected in your world? Like if we're talking about money, if there's shame around money. Right. I can work with a lot of people who even grew up wealthy, but they had shame about their parents' wealth. ⁓ or they had shame about their parents' poverty or lots of shame around the things they've had to do for money in the past. A million reasons why people would have shame around money. When we can go right back into those and just like face how bad that feels and breathe through the shame, let it kind of open up, let that light in there so that the shame eventually just kind of releases. Then where there used to be really low vibrating shame, there's now just open space for the universe to just move through you so that you feel like you're a part of the whole thing. Then you can play the role you came here to play. ⁓ I love that. I love that I love the idea of like releasing it to create space for actual the light and the goodness to really come in and be in flow. ⁓ I was when you're speaking, I was like, ⁓ every like business course that I've ever done or any business advice I've ever had is like if you are creating a product or service, make sure it's in health. wellness or relationships. And I was like, ⁓ huh. Or sorry, health, love, money. Sorry. Money. And I'm like, ⁓ there's so much shame and, you know, like lower frequencies attached to those three things. Yeah. Right. And I'm like, that's fascinating. I don't know. There I feel like there's a there's a relationship that's building there. I wonder if we're the same business coaches. That's Wait, what'd you say? I wonder if we've done one of the same programs 'cause of the coaching program I did Well ⁓ Hermosy talks about it all the time. ⁓ okay. I don't know. I'm not familiar. Yeah, no, he's such a bro. Don't know But it's always interesting to see like how divine feminine like businesses are led and then how this hyper masculine business models are led. I I love to see I'm like I like to mix them. I like to mix them. Like when I teach people business, like I get so many when I started doing this work, I I was working with a lot of like professionals, like really high achieving women and men. And so With them, you're trying to help them get to the energy side, the the the intuition, all that. And then I also have attracted the longer I've been in this, there's the intuition goddess fairy ladies who they don't think they have to do any work in the 3D physical world. That doesn't work either because we live in a 3D physical world of cause and effect. Like if you want to see money in 3D, you gotta do work in 3D. So literally. Okay. So and I think that's why I'm so attracted to Cynthia's work and to your work is because there's such a huge energy portion, mindset belief, all of that. And also the strategy, which is like, no, like we we still live here in this body. You know what I mean? I teach people frequency first and then from there you can kind of channel the strategies that are gonna work for you. If you if you take your energy and you get into that place where you are already feeling so successful and like I had a really big vision for what I wanted everything to feel like. I didn't know what it would look like, but I was like, this is how much I want to make and this is what I want it to feel like. And this is the flexibility I want. And I want to live here where I could see the ocean every day. Like I had it, I I knew what I wanted it all to feel like. And so from there, I became a vibrational match for everything that it was going to take to get there. Right. So being in that frequency, I was naturally guided to the business coaches who were going to help me and toward the strategies that were going to help me and toward the ⁓ You know, the things I needed to do, the concepts I needed to learn and that things I needed to implement. And then even when those people give their give their coaching, me knowing like, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna take 90% of this. I'm not gonna do the flirting with objections. I can't do that. Someone says no, I bye. You know, like I'm doing some other things. I just can't. My soul like doesn't like it. And so yeah, I always say frequency first and then and then from there, like all the right tools really land. Yeah, I mean, yeah, same. I'm like, yes, let's look at your human design first and then let's get into it. Yeah. ⁓ because you can't do strategy without the energy portion. It like literally has never made sense to me. Have you I worked with so many people who like they've done every strategy. It doesn't work. Nothing works. And it's like, okay, well then we gotta date your frequency. And then a strategy will work, but you gotta be a vibrational match for the success. Yeah, absolutely. And I think something that I wanted to like underline with what you just said, it's like I didn't know how I was going to get there, but I knew what I wanted to or how I was going to feel when I did. And like holding that that vibration and then releasing all the expectations of the how. I feel like this how thing is so fucking heavy and so dense. Yeah. Like recently I'm like, I feel like a lot of people were like, Well, how do I get this? Like, how can I do this? I'm like, we just need to like allow it to be at a certain point too. Right. And you don't know what's possible either. Like I said, when I was in college, it's like, what do you want to be when you grow up? It's like, well I wanna be rich. I wanna make teams. I don't wanna have to worry about money. I wanna like what I'm doing. But you don't have really like, you know, it's like I mean, and of course, I'm not complaining, of course, like gen all every generation before us is like butcher, baker, candlestick maker, and like, you know, that's it. But if I don't know an energy healer exists, I can't know that that's gonna be my how. So all I could do is hold the vision and just get in the feeling. Like I I held that feeling by nature too. Like I always knew. that my standard was that I just don't want to have money be a factor in my life. I don't want money to have to be something that stops me. Like I don't I don't I don't have these ambitions of being like mega rich or anything, but I always just want to have what I need. Yes. A little a little bit more. You know? Yes. Yes. I'm like I just know I'm gonna be a millionaire. I don't know how, but I will. Okay. And well I I actually want to go back quickly ⁓ to this ⁓ everyone's like just be delusional be like delulu and it you kind of brought it up briefly about the 3D fairies ⁓ you know we're like well we don't have to do the work no I love it I was like I love it so but because I wrote down Delulu. I want to know what she thinks about the d the whole idea of just be delusional and it'll all happen for you. And it's like where's the fine balance between Dululu and aligned action? I I I live delusionally so it doesn't feel delusional. So good. That's so good. Okay. So, like for for example, when I was a little kid, like my dad was drive we were on vacation in LA and my dad took us on a tour of LA and we were looking at all the mansions. And I'm like, okay, this exists. This this exists. This is a possibility in this universe. So I don't think it's delusional to think that I could be I could have that. Because I see it. It's here. It exists. Like every possibility exists in this universe. You know, like many possibilities, thousands of possibilities. Yes. ⁓ There's so many different ways to answer that question though too, because I have worked with people who I'm like, girl, like wherever you feel intuitively drawn to is gonna be absolutely perfect. Right. Well, you know, so yeah, i if anyone's listening to this, like there are so many different answers to the to the energy of delusion, but I th it can it can be super helpful and 'cause if you define delusion as just something you don't have right now, like yeah, go into possibilities and like go into the energy of it and play in it. Cause you can you can you can, you know, if you aim for the moon, you can kinda land somewhere near that, you know? And also I've worked with people who that's actually a pattern. Like the del if the delusion is a pattern for somebody, you really do have to nip that because then they never bounce that they never get out of it. They They don't even recognize manifesting the thing because the thing actually doesn't do anything for their system. The delusion, the fantasy, all of that is what they got so used to. Like for like I don't know if you've heard that term limerence kind of going around TikTok on Tuesdays. where like people kind of just like they live in fantasy. Like a lot of times people will develop that delusion, like with relationships. Like they'll think like, Okay, this is my boyfriend, right? Like when it's not their boyfriend or like That kind of delusion, sometimes people are in the pattern of that because they were they grew up in an environment where they had to learn how to see love where love didn't exist. You know? So we have to kind of when the clients come and they're sometimes I don't notice it right on the first session. I'm like, okay, cool, we're gonna manifest this relationship. Great. And this and this everything's possible. And after a while, I'm like, ⁓ wait, they're in a pattern because it's not just this, it's that. They think that. They're gonna have all this stuff without being a vibrational match to it. They they like fantasy. They like escaping. And so we have to get to kind of some of the stuff underneath that. So my relationship with delusion is like I think everything is possible or and I like to play in possibility. And I don't have a lot of attachment to if I get it or not. Ma one of my mantras wrote like two years ago, and I always I always have to forget to remember these things. Whatever. But I always say play in the infinite what was it? Play in the pos infinite ⁓ my god, what is it? Hold on, I have it, I have it, hold on, we're gonna to say it. Clearly I don't say it enough. Play it ⁓ sorry, there it is. Play in the energy of infinite possibilities. It's like on my dashboard, but I'm just like, exactly. Why? Like this goes into this like the how attachment. Well, I don't currently know how I'm gonna be a millionaire yet. Yeah. But that's not actually the point. And you know, there's a difference too between being delusional and acting delusional. Like, have you ever I you know, there's I've met some of early in my coaching days, I met some ⁓ people who were starting to play with this and they'd be like, Yeah, I'm starting this program and we're enrolling a hundred people and I'm like, Okay, you haven't enrolled anybody. So like think it yes. Be in the vibration of it, yes. Like, don't be out of integrity when you're talking about what you're creating, you know, because Yeah. You know, credibility is still a thing here. So like so one hundred percent delusionalness to you you and your coach. I don't even know how I feel about it. I'm like spitballing all the things. So don't you But I think that's my relationship with delusion is like if something's possible, go into the vibration of it and you're gonna land it what is so funny too is like the thing that you want that you would have to be delusional to think you'd have it, like Just go into the energy of it anyway, because what you want is the feeling of it. You might not even need that thing or want that thing. I've talked about this like in many different contexts, but well ⁓ just thinking of one, like there was I I've talked about this on on podcasts before, but I had I was working with a celebrity client and he was in the hip hop world, and every single day he was like, I have the number one song in the country, I have the number one song in the country, I have the number one song in the country, and he just got in the vibration of it and He ended up getting it doing a song with a country artist that went number one, song that probably most people listening have heard. And it's just like, you know what, that you what you were looking for was the feeling, you know, you didn't get what you I mean, you did get the number one song in country, but it's like or if you're being delusional and you're like, I I have I I I I have so many delusional client stories. So but but like let's say there's one who's like, No, I want to I wanna be on Oprah, right? So it's like, okay, let's get you in the vibration of what it is you really want. Cause usually it's not that you wanna be on Oprah, you wanna be seen, or you want eyes on your work, or you want to be acknowledged. There's something else you're looking for that this delusion you think this delusion's gonna give you. Mm-hmm. You know? ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah, absolutely. I feel like there's something I was gonna say to that. ⁓ it's lost. I've lost it. Do you run delusional or do you run very realistic? Ugh. I need to be more delusional. That's why I have that mantra. Well, because I'm just like I the that's why I keep saying I'm like, ⁓ and I just had a conversation with my friend today and she was getting so stuck on the how. So stuck on the how that she's ⁓ you can just feel the energy just contract like this. I'm very feeling oriented too. And I was like, You gotta get the fuck out of that right now because this is your life's mission that you're putting on hold because you can't hold the frequency for it. Right. And pay attention. Yeah. And I think one of the things that has made me successful i in manifesting in reality creation, all of it, is like if you are in just oneness with the entire universe and you you feel like you already know where it's going, you know everything works out, you know everything is great and you know eventually you get where you're supposed to be, you can have the patience and it makes you so much more resilient. Like you don't look at like someone saying like, ⁓ I can't pay pay you. You don't look at that as anything. Like it just it's like water off your back. It means nothing. It's just like it means it doesn't even resonate with you. It moves right through you because you know eventually that money is here. So you can kind of be patient with it and you can kind of just not stress. So actually this is an interesting cause to someone you have a solid foundation with money. You you're it doesn't even phase you at this point. So for someone who is literally holding back their dreams. because they don't have enough money to invest or they can't pay their rent or they can't, you know, like something like foundational is not as like is like contracting it because they're in fight or flight. Right. Right. What is how do we like how do we access this like the oneness when we're in such this like stuck 3D, like real shit that we have to like we have to pay the rent, we have to pay the bills. Right. Where what would you say to that? I think I think where I started and where I where I guided all my clients to start is to just go into the money junk itself, you know, like, okay, here's the reality that I'm in right now. You know, let's go into that. Why am I a vibrational match for this? Start doing the start doing the money clearings. You know, I have a ton of audio clearings. I have a ton of free clearings that people can go into and just start getting in like into that place where you're taking accountability for where it's at right now. And also just start focusing on just Increasing your overall vibration, you know, because when you get to that vibration again on that scale of consciousness, if you get up to five hundred, five forty, six hundred, that's where you're vibrating in harmony with miracles. And so you don't have to know the how. I actually have something right now that I'm getting ready to maybe move into. And I don't have like the on paper qualifications, like it's not gonna happen. I do need some magic and I'm not even stressed about it at all because I have that magic. You know, like I'm not even thinking about it. So I'm just and I I even enrolled my mom sometimes can help me manifest because she has she has this ability as well. But I'll just be like, so I wanna do this thing and I someone's gonna need to hire me for it, but they wouldn't just on paper. And so I'm just gonna need some magic. I'm gonna need someone just to know. And that's my god Please update me when that happens. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. So okay. So Jackie is you are a ⁓ specific manifestor in human design too. So like actually the clearer that you are on the vision or that feeling, it will manifest for you. Mm-hmm. And also you have gate fifty-seven, which is the most intuitive gate of all of them. And you have three different channels, and it's all part of the empowerment circuit, right? So it's just like you are so driven. by that intuition. And I love that you've always had that knowing. Anyways, I just wanted to share that energetic piece for you. ⁓ last question that I ask all my guests. If someone were to really know you, what would they need to know about you? If someone were to really know me. Hmm. Funny it's funny to answer that as a Scorpio. ⁓ I know. Death and rebirth babies. Yeah, you know, I think that I think if someone were to need to know me, they need to know that like I don't treat any like I know that this you that like nothing is ultimately real. Nothing is ultimately true. Like I don't dig in and stay somewhere. You know? So if you knew me last year, you don't know me. I love that so much. That's so Yeah. That's wanna expand on that? Well, yeah, I mean it's just 'cause like sometimes every once in a while, like I'll work with somebody or I'll have a friend and they'll be like, Okay, please don't judge me. And I'm like, I am so far from judging you because nothing you're saying is ultimately real. You're just you're just letting energy move through you and there is nothing to judge. I've had people confess the the things that would just make the society cancel them ten times over. But I'm just like, Yeah, I mean, that's how you feel. Like it's just moving through you. You're not stuck with it. You're not gonna feel that way in ten days. Like, so I don't view so many like feelings or thoughts or beliefs. I don't view that as permanent for myself or for anyone. So like I'm really not judging as much as I think most people do. Yeah. ⁓ my god, I love that. Just like your non attachment to energy and letting that like be true. Like you're just like it's just not true. Right. Like, sure. If it's true now, it won't be true in the next sixty seconds. Like Yeah. And there's this like non-attachment you have that's so beautiful and refreshing to hear. Thank you. Well, it comes from doing this work for so long, you know. Like when I first started doing this work, it's like, okay, let's clear your money blocks, let's clear your love blocks. And everyone's coming to me and you know, talking about all the things they manifested, which is fantastic. And after a while, you're just like, ⁓ my gosh, are we still doing this? People still buying into these old stories? You still think that's real? Yes. Yeah. They do. So I'm not like I I I catch myself, I mean, once a week where it's just like, ⁓ huh, I really I really think that or I'm really operating in this one, aren't I? My ego's really having a field day with this one. Like I can I can float outside myself and catch myself and I'm always going to. I mean, patterns run deep. Programs deep so deep. ⁓ this conversation is like I don't know, it's just so refreshing today. So thank you so much for being on the podcast. How can people connect with you? What what's your next thing in the world? Gosh, ⁓ at the end of September on September 30th, I'm doing a f complimentary group clearing. you can find me at Hi Wat Living, H I W A T T L I V I N G dot com. And I'm always doing group clearings, like low-cost group clearings. Every once in a while I do a free group clearing. I offer semi-private sessions if people want just 15 minutes with me. ⁓ I work with my private clients through really, really large ⁓ year-long packages, but I also do ⁓ kind of webinar series. In October, I'm doing the becoming series, which is All of the there's so many people right now who are moving into something new. And so it's we're gonna be clearing the blocks of your fear of change, ⁓ your ego's beliefs and what's real, all your patterns of trying to force things. So we're doing some w ⁓ webinars, group clearings on that. So yeah, they can find me at highwatliving.com. Amazing. Thank you so much for being on the podcast. Thank you for having me. This was so much fun. It was
