In this episode, transformational coach and founder of Lead in the Feminine, Cynthia Stamation, joins me to talk about the energetics of money, why so many soul-led women are scared of their own success, and what happens when you actually start treating your business like a relationship instead of a to-do list.
In this episode, we talk about
- Reading the energy of money and business
- The real reason women are afraid of their own success
- The seven chakras of a business and what each one reveals
- How to build an actual relationship with your money
- Automatic writing as a tool for hearing what your money has to say
- What capacity really means, and why it matters more than strategy
- Healing the belief that you have to hide your gifts to stay safe
- A live money reading on Sasha (yes, a clown shows up)
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Full Episode Transcript
This transcript was auto-generated, so a few words may be a little off.
Cynthia Stamation: I believe that we can only receive what we have the capacity to hold. What is your relationship? Is it like a one night stand, here today, gone tomorrow? is it a sugar daddy? Are you in an abusive relationship where you talk poorly about your money? and then my favorite thing is I'll ask people, so if your money was a person, how how would they act? Right? I mean, could you imagine if I told my spouse, you know, I want you to be there for me whenever I want, but I'm not gonna pay attention. I'm not gonna invest in you at all. I'm gonna totally ignore you, but I want you to support me.
Sasha Pearl: Yeah. Feels one sided.
Cynthia Stamation: It's one sided, right? Where everything is energy.
Sasha Pearl: What if I told you that you could build a relationship with your money and with your business? We're talking about money energetics today on the Have You Met You podcast with Cynthia Staymation from Lead in the Feminine. She is a transformational coach, speaker, and founder of Lead in the Feminine, a movement dedicated to helping women lead by embracing their intuition and their authentic power. This episode is so good, so good. I'm so excited to share this with all of you. I'm Sasha Pearl, the Energy Architect, and I guide soul-led women in building authentic six-figure brands online. By aligning their identity, their brand, and their content using my Highly Potent Method. And before we hop into this episode today, I am hosting the Self-Expressed workshop. We have just opened the wait list for our second cohort, and I would love for you to sign up. This is where we are going to go over the seven unique placements to decode your signature expression. So we are blending human design and astrology to support you in building out. Content that actually feels really, really, really, really, really, really, really good to create because creating content does not need to suck. You know what mean? So sign up. The link will be in the show notes below. And let's get into it. Today on the podcast we have Cynthia Stammation and she is a one-three projector with emotional authority. She is almost all defined, which is actually insane. And we're so happy to have you here.
Cynthia Stamation: I am so happy to be here. I love your podcast. I love your energy. Thank you so much for inviting me. I really appreciate it.
Sasha Pearl: For us. What do you what what do you do in the world? Tell tell the listeners what you do.
Cynthia Stamation: So I'm the founder of Lead in the Feminine. I believe that we can only receive what we have the capacity to hold. So I help women expand their capacity so that they can receive more, more money, more opportunities, deeper relationships without having to sacrifice who they are or something, right? We can actually have it all. And so I do this through reading of energy of your business, your money, your mindset, and then clearing whatever blockage is in the way and then rebuilding from there.
Sasha Pearl: I love that. And how long have you been doing this for?
Cynthia Stamation: well I started out as a life coach and that was in two thousand and three. And then I had several different
Sasha Pearl: Hmm.
Cynthia Stamation: awakenings and that shifted everything for me in two thousand and nine. So in two thousand and nine, it was like a portal opened up into like the mystery of the world. and just one of the things that always just kept coming pretty easily was I could it's like people's money would talk to me. And so and like their company would would would talk to me. And so, you know, it's little weird. but I would say I really started coming out in this is who I am over like only the last five years. Before then, like many women you you You kind of silently apologize for who you are, like hide your unique gifts without really knowing that you're apologizing. So been coaching
Sasha Pearl: Mm-hmm.
Cynthia Stamation: for over 20 years, but probably on this side of the energy reading, the last eight to ten, but making it known the last five.
Sasha Pearl: so I would love to hear more. Well, first I want to hear more about this your revelation around hiding your gifts. Like, I feel that so many of us are actually gatekeeping our gifts and it I always say I I say it's like one of the most selfish things that you can do. And it's also one of the most terrifying things that you can do to really put yourself out there in a very vulnerable way. So I would love to hear more about your journey with, well, a just creating awareness around hiding hiding of your gifts and then being like, I'm gonna actually reclaim this and share those gifts with the world.
Cynthia Stamation: Well, you're so right. That's what I love what you're doing in the world is because you're showing people the true energy of who they are that they can't ignore anymore, right? And
Sasha Pearl: Yes.
Cynthia Stamation: so what that does is even if you if you can show it to them, even if they don't know, they know, right? Because it's like their soul's code. And so that I love what you're doing in
Sasha Pearl: Mm. Yeah.
Cynthia Stamation: the world. I think that it's amazing. So I
Sasha Pearl: Thank you.
Cynthia Stamation: I've always had the I would say, like I I When I came out of the womb, it was like I knew what I was doing. Like I just always knew. And I became a professional dancer. I danced in New York City for 10, 15 years. And then I wanted to shift and do something that I would always enjoy. And I had done a personal development, but they were very linear. It was very life coaching. And so I I I I trained in that. and then actually for the last 15 years, I've always been like I call myself the reluctant leader because I've always been put in leadership positions without I would say really wanting to. And so for the last fifteen, eighteen years, I've actually been running my uncle's dental company. And so it's a consulting company for dentists and it's very linear linear, you know. So I I know how to do strategy, I know how to do all of that. But You know, energy reading and a lot of woo, you know, with dentists is not is not we'll say widely accepted. There's always an exception. But for me, in order to feel like I had to fit into the world, I felt like I had to hide that. And then also in general growing up, being intuitive, I'm sure that you experienced, you know, maybe you said some things or saw some things that the adults didn't like. And a Few years ago, five years ago, my husband was in a health crisis and he totally recovered. But after that I was like, I can't eff and wait anymore. Like, you know, I mean, this is
Sasha Pearl: Yep.
Cynthia Stamation: this is it. And so it's been all out. And it wasn't easy, right? I mean, I did play, I think, Donna Summers, I'm coming out for like two months every day just to like get the nerve up to expose who I really am
Sasha Pearl: It's so good.
Cynthia Stamation: in the world, right? But gosh, you know, once you do, I'm sure you've experienced it because I've heard, you know, your story. Once you
Sasha Pearl: Mm-hmm.
Cynthia Stamation: do, it's like everything comes in alignment, right? It's when you're fighting
Sasha Pearl: Mm-hmm.
Cynthia Stamation: that, fighting or hiding, it just it throws you off track.
Sasha Pearl: Yeah, absolutely. coming back to your leadership, like I just keep getting put into leadership roles. Like you're based on your design, first of all, you're a projector, so you're here to help see and guide other people, right? Like you are meant to be leading in that way just because you can seed so deeply into other people. But you also have gate seven, which is the gate of leadership. And it's really about leading with the people. Like that is in your south notes. You came into this world already inherently leading, essentially. So just knowing that that's just part of your natural energy and it makes a lot of sense.
Cynthia Stamation: Makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. I I mean I did get on board the last three years because I was like, all right, this is clearly, you know, supposed to be happening. So
Sasha Pearl: well, I love that that I don't know why it like kind of crushes my soul to that it takes such an immense amount of like traumatic experience or big experience for us to really just see the fragility of life itself. And for me, it was my mom passing away at 23 and being like, I have to I have to direct my own life and what does that look like now? Right. It's like when you're doing it from place from outside of you for someone else's accountability. It doesn't, it's never going to be in alignment with who you are. There's always going to feel something that is that is off. and I just really love that as much as it's sad and also it's awesome that you know he's healed from cancer and it gave you a new awareness and enlightenment to who you are. It just is kind of like, why does that have why do we have to have so much pain in order for us to move through into another threshold. Like do you have any insights on like what that's about?
Cynthia Stamation: No, I mean No, I mean it took me and I I mean, I've been you know, I've been teaching this forever, like live your best life, be full, right? And there was still
Sasha Pearl: Yeah.
Cynthia Stamation: some part of me that wasn't aware that I wasn't fully living until the threat of how fragile s something is. So, you know, and and and we've
Sasha Pearl: Yeah, I love that threat.
Cynthia Stamation: Yeah. And we've tried, right? Like we've tried to we have those friends where we're like, Why are you still doing that? Right. And we just We want we want something for them and yeah, so no insight there.
Sasha Pearl: I'd be like, I've got nothing for you. That's okay.
Cynthia Stamation: I got nothing. Yeah.
Sasha Pearl: So tell me a little bit more. It seem you said I can just see money and the energy of money in business or in a person just like so clearly. Can you tell me a little bit more about like what do you mean by that?
Cynthia Stamation: Yeah. this this has happened to me. Well, it still happens where I will run into somebody and they'll say, my God, that conversation that we had last year changed my life. And I have no idea what I was even talking about. I'm like, my God, you know, was it good? this happened once at a dental conference. you know, it's huge, huge conference. There's like thousands and thousands of people and we're all individual vendors. And you know, a man came up to me, he was from Brazil and they had a company and he said, my God, that you know, that advice you gave me last year was amazing. And I was like, What are you talking about? And apparently I gave him some advice on how to shift his budget on his marketing. I don't remember at all, but it must have just been guided completely through me and it changed his life. So, you know, sometimes I think that people's money just, you know, they find like a conduit and they, you know, help him. another woman I was doing because I used to be a professional dancer, so we do like this fundraiser and I was doing this little variety act show. And this woman came up to me and after the show and she was like, you know, I always wanted to see you again because what you told me four years ago really helped me. And I was like, Well, what did I tell you? And she said, Well, we were at a party and you just came up and you said, Hey, listen, keep doing what you're doing. Your business is gonna succeed. I promise you that. And you know, just keep doing it. I said, your business just wants you to know that you got this, that you don't have to worry about it. And and then apparently I guess I walked away. She's telling me this. And and she said, interesting enough, that morning she was planning on filing for bankruptcy because they were just maxed out. And I just got chills. Thank God it worked. You know, I know I know thank God it worked. I
Sasha Pearl: Me too.
Cynthia Stamation: didn't give her bad advice and something really bad happened. But she said that the following week their business completely turned around. And and now, you know, they've franchised, they did everything. And then probably one of the most dramatic is I was enrolling one of my programs and I was I started just kept thinking about this woman that I know in town. And I was God, I gotta call her. And and so I called her and I was like, Hey, you know, I'm doing this program, do you wanna do you wanna talk? and she's like, sure. And she and she's like, Well, what do you do? And I said, I don't I feel like we should do like a money reading or something. She was like, Okay. And so we get on the phone, and I said, You know, your money, I said, your money wants to be with you. I said, for whatever reason, you're mu you're not with your money, and it is like destroying your money. It wants to be with you. It's trying to find a way to you, but it can't find you. And she said, my God. And I'm like, What? You know, because I never know what, you know, what the story is. And she said that she was due for a big gift, like an inheritance, but there's been a lot of legal tape, and somebody stopped. Has put a stop on it. And so she's jumping through all these hoops to have it come into her life. So of course we started working together and worked together over a year, just kind of energetically clearing. I'm not gonna work with people on the legality of what to do or anything like that, but we worked just on the energy of connecting her money with her. And she just called me two weeks ago and said, we've got a money miracle. And what seemed impossible and absolutely unreasonable has all gone away. And now she's getting full access to her like all of her money. And so that was just I mean, her life is gonna change. She wants to do so many beautiful things with this. And you know, it just didn't make sense. And that's the thing with you know, all these divine beings and light workers, it's like they need to have their money because I mean, I've never met anybody that's like, hey, I want money for evil. Never. Right. They want money because they're gonna help, you know. I mean, to me, financial freedom is helping my friend who's getting a divorce and giving her five grand so that she can, you know, get a leg up, you know. So I just
Sasha Pearl: Yeah, yeah.
Cynthia Stamation: I love those stories when people can get, you know, the full access of what, you know, pretty much their I I feel like their birthright is.
Sasha Pearl: Yeah. it's such beautiful work in the world, especially with how much shit is around money. So what how would you or what would you say are some of the like major money blocks that you work with in the work that you do.
Cynthia Stamation: Yeah. well the biggest one is deserve and worthy, right? And a lot of that, I mean, some of it can come in through a past life, but a lot of it is just the conditioning that we agreed to be in from our culture. And so our parents, our schools, whatever our youth you know, our youth imprinting is that what we feel that we deserve or not deserve. But I would say truthfully, the biggest thing, the biggest block with women. is they're afraid of success. They're afraid of their own power. Because as I mentioned before, not you know, I'm not the only one that's like silently apologizing for who I am by not coming into my full power. But you know, your shininess, you know, or my being in my full power is probably making someone uncomfortable. And we are
Sasha Pearl: Always.
Cynthia Stamation: so relationship-based that we are willing to sacrifice ourselves to keep a relationship. And, you know, I I love working with women, get them in their full power to them being in their full success vibration because I shouldn't give it a percentage, but I'd say most of the time, then everybody comes along with them, right? Like you raise your vibration, you can actually raise everyone else's and everyone can get aboard. Not always, you know, sometimes you have
Sasha Pearl: Mm.
Cynthia Stamation: to leave people behind, but that's why I love the work that you're doing in the world, because if you can show people who they really, really, really are and have them remember that on a soul level, it shifts you. I mean, you can't, I I mean. Do you work with a lot of people that are like, thank you for showing how amazing I am, but I'm not gonna do anything with it? I mean, it has to plant a seed, right?
Sasha Pearl: 100%. I mean, like my you talk about how like you give advice and it like redirects them in some way or like they just needed to hear it at the exact moment they needed to hear it. One of like my incarnation cross, which is my life's purpose, is all about redirecting people. So if you come into my orbit, you're gonna be redirected in some way because I will say something that might just change a tra trajectory for you. I've also had people on the other side though say, I kind of feel shameful because I don't think I can live up to this. And I'm like, well, this is your highest potential. This is you can if you want to, but I'm not saying that you have to, right? So it's really interesting to see what how people, it's like I've always been able to believe so much more in the other person than they do themselves sometimes. And that's just has always been like just I think it's a projector gift though, too, right? It's just being able to see someone's highest potential, being like, I know what you can do. I wish you could also see what you can do. So like human design is a way I get to like. express a knowing and a seeing and my intuition and those gifts with people.
Cynthia Stamation: I love that. I love that. Coming into my orbit will redirect them for their highest good. I absolutely love that. My I would say my mission or my my gift, I would say, is that I am the gift. And so anybody, I have just a blessing that anybody comes
Sasha Pearl: god.
Cynthia Stamation: into my energy, whether it's, you know, on a podcast or at Safeway or, you know, or on a coaching call like I will be the energy that they need, either for whatever it is that they need. If they need to open up their love or if they need to open up. And then that way it always reminds me of like, you know, my core mission, which is like me just as I am is enough. And that's probably
Sasha Pearl: Mm-hmm.
Cynthia Stamation: the biggest one of the other after the fear of success for women is that we don't, you know, we just don't believe that. We just don't believe that who we are as we are, we can get paid for being me.
Sasha Pearl: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I love So how did did you ever deal with any of these fears? Or did you come into the world just innately knowing these things that you're like, I am worthy, I believe, I am enough.
Cynthia Stamation: No, not at all. No. What actually brought me to personal development is I was living in New York City. I was dancing. probably the most famous thing that people would recognize is I did the Christmas show at Radio City Music Hall. So, you know, lots of performing and you can be broke in New York City and it's still like just a great life. and on the outside it you know, it looked like everything was going really well. And I would just was miserable inside. I had this innate ability to find and date assholes. It really didn't matter like their economics. I mean it was unbelievable. Like the first date would be like an interview process, right? I'm like, so I was reading chicken soup for your everything and nothing was nothing was happening. and so that's what actually got me to like we'll say personal development is to figure out we know why was I so miserable and angry inside? You know, there wasn't necessarily any unknown, you know, bad things that had happened to me. I just, you know, I just knew that I was missing out on something. And so that's really what started the journey for me. but no, I mean I I've been, you know, more Since I've been out and contacting people and I've actually had some people from like high school come to my that I knew in high school and they're just like, Wow, like that angry, weird girl, you know, who had like Flocca Seagull's haircut. Wow, can't believe it. And I'm like, I get it. I mean, I I would have never thought that either. So
Sasha Pearl: So do you I feel like a lot of people teach the work that they've had to do on their journey. What are some of the methods that you are using to help other women believe in themselves again to really understand the energetics of money, specifically in their businesses? you talk about the capacity framework on your website. So I would love to hear more about that.
Cynthia Stamation: Yeah, the capacity framework that is really expanding your capacity. So for me, I run my uncle's dental consulting company that has 20 employees. I also have an executive life coaching company that I run with my husband, and we have five different employees. And then I launched this Lead in the Feminine, a whole new angle. And I'm not willing to let go of anything. I'm just not. And so I continue just to expand my capacity, which means I get to ask for help. I get to receive help when it comes. I get to use my intuition like supercharged so that I can anticipate what's happening. And so I also get to expand my love capacity and I let my husband do like it. My my husband's love is literally my superpower, right? I mean, he's just so supportive. And so when I get to not sacrifice anything that I want to do in my life, I I need to expand. I need to expand my energy so that I can hold it all. And then I forgot what else you asked me.
Sasha Pearl: So what does it mean? Well, let's go tell me more about how does someone expand the capacity to hold it all? And also why is that important for them to work on and build.
Cynthia Stamation: Yeah, so what how I will work with women is you will basically look at what emotional density is still there that is preventing them clarity in what they want either to attract or to hold or to have. And so there's lots of amazing modalities out there that I think do the same thing. And so anytime that you release an old pattern, you release an old you know, subconscious, any subconscious or conscious healing, what that does is it makes you lighter, and then that expands your capacity. So I will work with women and you know, ask them questions, get an assessment, but I'll also just tap into their energy and I'll ask their energy to show me, either through their personal chakra system or their business chakra system, you know, what what is in what is in the way, what is blocking them. And it's always subconscious that's playing out in their current patterns. And so I'll do it that way. Or what we'll do is we'll focus on the expanded part of themselves. Like somebody will say, okay, well I want to bring in this amount of money. And so what we'll do is we'll get on and we'll tune their energy to that amount of money or to what it is that they want, because everything you know and I listen to your podcast, so I know you this. Everything is energy, right? And so you have to calibrate your energy to what you want because it's not about working hard and doing more. It's about calibrating your energy to that so that it comes into your life. And so we can do a few different things to expand your capacity so that you can hold more. One, we look at density and we clear out all the density so that your energy can become lighter and more malleable and can't expand. Or We expand and attune your energy to what you want, and then all the density shows up, right? Like right away. And then we can clear that up. It's kind like, you know, the universe loves you enough to show you all your shit right away. And you're like, thank you. I love you
Sasha Pearl: I feel like it's daily, actually.
Cynthia Stamation: too.
Sasha Pearl: But tell me this like density, like when I when you say density, I'm thinking about this like these like clouds like in my aura and then there's like little pieces of like chit in them or something. Like it's a bad fart or something. I don't know.
Cynthia Stamation: Yeah. Exactly. It's totally a bad part. It's bad gas. I love that. I'm gonna start using that. Girl, you got gas. Okay, back to the serious, back to the serious podcast. yeah, so you can
Sasha Pearl: Yes. Yes, yes, okay.
Cynthia Stamation: we I mean we feel density in our body, right? Like you know, you if you just go in, close your eyes, and ask somebody to say, hey, scan your physical body and just ask them, hey, where where is it dense? Where is it heavy? They'll be able to feel it. when you're working with energy, you can, you know, some people may see it more, they may have more visuals, but I will never I will always double check with who I'm working with 'cause I trust their feeling over any intuitive hits that I would get. but usually I it'll it'll help steer, you know, steer the steer the boat, we'll say.
Sasha Pearl: Okay. Inter okay, so it's like what is it like sensations in their body too as much as it can be like visions of their the energetic visualization you're going through? Okay. Okay.
Cynthia Stamation: Absolutely. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Absolutely. So I can work with people in two different ways. One way is through body-based coaching, and that's literally getting somebody into their body and asking them questions and having their body respond. And so when you have somebody close their eyes and take a couple of deep breaths and you like ask them questions, where are you feeling this in your body? What is behind that? It is amazing how people know. Everyone knows. I mean, we all
Sasha Pearl: Always know.
Cynthia Stamation: I mean that is just like the one thing is that everybody knows what they need, what they want. Now, they may think that they don't because the environment around them is telling them not to trust themselves, but everybody knows. And so I'll work with people through their physical bodies so that we can find whatever that is. Because if if something's coming up for someone physically, we can find the emotion behind it, then we can find where the pattern started in childhood and we can release it. And the same thing if there's an emotion, we can find out where are they carrying that emotion in their body. Find out what the pattern was, you know, what what was the event, and we can release it. And then the energy side of things does the same. It does exactly the same. when I work with people, it's just a little bit faster, is basically the only the only difference I I experience.
Sasha Pearl: I think that's like so cool. Like that's so cool. I would love to hear the breakdown of Well, I'm actually really curious. You talked about the business also having a chakra system as well as having your obviously your own chakra system. I would love to hear more. Well, I I want to break down the chakra systems first, and then I want to break down each of the chakra systems and how they coexist together. So I'll ask you that after this, but so I'd love to hear more about each of the chakras and like how you can pull out. whether a block or an expansion of each of those centers and how people may, you know, be able to potentially practice this on their their own for their own awareness.
Cynthia Stamation: Absolutely. And I didn't go in even with the desire to know what the chakras are. Like, you know, there's some really wise people out there and they're like yoga masters and they're Reiki masters. And and I mean then they're really brilliant and they can give you a very in-depth, knowledge of your chakra system. I'm kind of like your basic gal, right? Like it it's It's focused on you know, where in your energy is the block. And and so I'll start off and I'll just ask, okay, so in this person's chakra, you know, where where are we going? And it'll be either be one of the seven chakras from your root chakra to your crown chakra. And each chakra to me, since it's through my filter, and it will show up in a different way. So if it's in your root Since it's my filter working with the chakra systems, to me, that usually means your foundation and support. your second chakra, that will mean your relationship. relationship and it could be, you know, for me, a lot of times it comes up to your relationship with yourself or your relationship with your money. third chakra is kind of like your personal power. And so it could be a blockage if you aren't comfortable with where where you are in life. your heart chakra, this is I You know, I see it like love. also, you you know, if if if your heart is closed, a lot of the receiving capacity will show up in a in a in the heart chakra through me, right? Because this is through my filter. your fifth chakra, a lot of this has to do with us, you know, swallowing our voice, turning our voice down, our voice not at full volume. And then our third, you know, sixth chakra is our intuitive, intuitive knowing. And then our crown chakra is our real connection with source. And so I really started learning about the chakras. I was doing an intuitive training, intuitive coach training with my coach, Jackie Beam. She'd be a great guest on here. She's amazing. And I was they were teaching.
Sasha Pearl: We'll love a connect.
Cynthia Stamation: I know, I'll I'll get you. She's she's phenomenal. And so we were she was teaching all of us. There was probably like fifty of us over the course of six months. And she's teaching us this system where you go and you look in the chakras. And I kept getting this redirect. Maybe you were there in energetically. It was probably your your gift. You probably popped popped in like I'm gonna help her. but I kept getting this redirect to do it on business and to use the chakra system as a business. And so then I got this download that your first chakra in your business, this is your foundation. So it's your mission. It's what grounds you in this earth, right? It is, you know, what is the impact that you can have in this world and, you know, are you really grounded in it? And then your second chakra of your business, this is your culture. This is the relationship you have with yourself, with your clients, with your product, with your money. Your third chakra, this is your why. This is your mission. This is like all the power and and why you do, why the business even exists. And then your heart chakra, this is how the operations of the business. And so the biggest thing in people's business with their heart chakra is when they are not operating to what they teach. Right. And so if they feel out of alignment or they're acting, they're teaching like, you know, we we do really important relationship work and they have a, you know, and they're not very nice to their spouse, it's gonna, you know, energetically
Sasha Pearl: Yeah.
Cynthia Stamation: it's not gonna work. And then the fifth chakra of a business, this is your sales and marketing. Right. So this is how you voice what you do. This is, and that's also your action and integrity. So if your third chakra, your why is wobbly and you're not really sure why why or what you're doing, you're not going to be able to sell. And so, you know, all of these have to be in alignment. And then this chakra, this is your, I call it your strategic foresight. So you need your in you need to harness your intuitive knowing, but you also need to
Sasha Pearl: Yeah.
Cynthia Stamation: look, you need to look ahead. Right, because there's all these different paths that we always have. And you need to pick one and then reverse engineer it in a very strategic way. But you have to trust the hits that you get. And the the story that was probably the obvious is in my dental company. like I'm a very, you know, servant leadership boss, right? Like I'm I'm like, hey, let's all work together. And in December and January of December 2019 and January of 2020, I was like this raging bee. I was like, we need more sales. And I mean, it was bizarre. I mean, so much so, a friend of mine who works with me, she pulled me aside and she was like, Look, you are really and I said, I don't know why. I just, and I just kept pushing us, pushing us, pushing us. Lo and behold, when COVID came, we had all of our sales set for the entire year. And everybody that we had already sold to, their businesses grew like crazy because they they were already in our coaching program. And so I I you know I trusted very much what I was feeling, even if I didn't understand it. And then your crown chakra, this is your legacy, right? Because if you are in some business where you're creating, you know, a better place or you're really in your purpose. Then you know your business is your legacy and it is what you will be remembered for. And so when you work with a business on the energetic, it's really fun to see what might be out of alignment. Like I was working with this one woman just recently, and it and it was her money, but we went into her business and it was in her throat chakra. And what had happened is a few years before she was in partnership with somebody who was shady.
Sasha Pearl: All right.
Cynthia Stamation: And they were out of their integrity, and she was still carrying the like the business energy was still carrying the shame of being in business with this person. And so we just cleared that. Or obviously I'm really excited about that because I'm not letting you talk at all. Or what's really cool is that sometimes we start a business and we're, you know, a certain type of energy in the world. But then we upgrade, but then our business needs to upgrade energetically with us. So that was that was like the download that I was getting. And then I've just been playing around with it. And then I'll like read, you know, I'll ask if I can read some energies of like some of the bigger companies to see what, you know, what's going on. But yeah, very interesting. I I haven't met anybody who does that. So if you do know of anybody else, I'd love to you know, swap stories or, you know, find out, you know, how I could improve. That would be super cool.
Sasha Pearl: That's incredible. No, I don't know of anyone else who does that. I am curious, have you seen so if it's showing up in the physical personal chakra system, is it also sh simultaneously going to be showing up in the business, or have you also seen it where it's showing up in parts of the business and not showing up or vice versa?
Cynthia Stamation: You know, I know and many healers, for instance, my coach, sh that's how she reads business energy, is through somebody's personal chakras. it
Sasha Pearl: Okay.
Cynthia Stamation: for me it's separate. So I would imagine that it's the same result. It's just, you know, my technique or my filter. but I I would imagine that for many healers, they can definitely that's how they would do it. It just shows up a little bit differently, for me.
Sasha Pearl: I love that. I have looked at so I do that with human design, or I was doing that with human design, where I'm like, okay, what is the entity's energy? What is my energy? And then what is the relationship between the two? Because as you know, everything's energy and we're in constant relationship to everything. So if we're not thinking of our business as a relationship, whether that's energetically or or not, there's gonna be a disconnect because you're not talking both ways, right? There's not a flow of energy happening. So I would love to hear your insider perspective on that flow of communication and that relationship energetically. And you do it through the chakra systems, but I would love to hear if you have any insights or philosophies on on that.
Cynthia Stamation: Well, you are so spot on because everything is energy. And so on a lot of the events that I do, we do this with money. And I will have people go into conversation with their money. And whether it's through, you know, some people like to write, some people like to have conversation, but it is amazing. And I do a couple of different exercises to get them out of their head, into their heart or their subconscious, but it is unbelievable how they can connect with the The energy of their money right away. And anybody who, and I've, well, I would just say anyone can really do it. I've worked with people that, you know, highly intuitive. And once, once I say, just connect with your money, what does your money want to say to you? They can do it. Or I've worked with people that, you know, have never even thought of it or done energy work. And they once the doors open for your money to start talking to you, especially if. There's something that you're meant to do with it. Right. I mean, you know, if you're meant, if you have, you know, 'cause we can be so grateful, so grateful and thankful for what we have, but if we have this thought that there's more or that we want more, you know, that's that's source telling telling us that there is more and there's a good reason for it. Well, especially if
Sasha Pearl: Yeah.
Cynthia Stamation: Especially if you're part of this community that wants to make the world a better place.
Sasha Pearl: Yeah, and I think it's like, especially more now than ever, it's like we we need to be as women healers and soul led women in business. We we need to be resourced and we need to understand that it is ours too. You know, it's it's not the one percenters, it's not the men, it's everyone, and we all actually get to to be a part of it as as much as long as we can trust it and build that relationship with it. I did this practice. I did a journal I think I did a journaling prompt or something. And what what came out of do you do automatic writing at all?
Cynthia Stamation: Yes, yes. Jody actually
Sasha Pearl: Yes.
Cynthia Stamation: was the one that reminded me of that stream of consciousness writing. Brilliant.
Sasha Pearl: Mm-hmm. Yes. So I was like, what does I think? I don't know if I asked what does your money or what does my what does money want to tell me right now or not? But I was like, what does money mean to me? Or it was one of the questions around money and like the relationship with it. And I was like, money is like my sugar daddy. I want nothing to do with. I keep having to perform for it. And I want to have nothing to do with it. And I was like, and a lot, lot, like so much more. And I was like, and I'm wondering why I'm having a receiving or generating or like whatever. And I'm like, when did this belief come online for me? Because it hasn't always I I know for a fact, based off of the energetics of money previously to to in the past six months or last year, it wasn't like that. And I'm like, what happened? But it's powerful like that alone. I was like, you've got some work to do.
Cynthia Stamation: Yeah, it's powerful. yeah, so often people like if if if people so I went to see this incredible medium. He was famous, I can't remember, but he he always said a few days before he's going to do a big be on stage with a lot of people, you know, people from the other side will start connecting with him, right? And so that will happen to me with people's money or business. And and so yeah, your money visited me.
Sasha Pearl: Mine?
Cynthia Stamation: Yeah.
Sasha Pearl: What? yay! Okay, let's
Cynthia Stamation: Yeah.
Sasha Pearl: talk.
Cynthia Stamation: Okay, cool. So your money came and it was like this super cute clown. And I was like, what? And your money's like, it has to be fun. The more fun she has, it has to be fun. And and so and it's like the more fun, the more fun I have, the more money I make. Like it has to be fun. You're not willing to not do anything that's not fun anymore. That's what your money said. you're also really good at juggling because your money clown was like, dun, dun, dunno, no, And so it told me that you could do a lot. and then the last thing your money said was, because you know, clowns are also a little scary. And I was like, so you know, what's the
Sasha Pearl: Yeah.
Cynthia Stamation: scary part? And the clown said, she's a little scared of how much she can actually make, how much she can actually hit. And then I said, Well, what's in the way?
Sasha Pearl: No
Cynthia Stamation: And she said, because
Sasha Pearl: Yeah.
Cynthia Stamation: it's tied into performance. And so the more you you are afraid, you know, the more money you make, the more you're gonna have to perform. The more money you make, the more have you perform. And so I did do a little blessing that it's like I call it a little bubble. Like, you know, I put a I'm like, okay, well, if she wants to heal it, I'll just put it out there in the world and then you can take it and heal it. So did that resonate?
Sasha Pearl: Okay, I don't know if I've I've s I feel like I have said this on a podcast before, but I was like, if it's not fun, I'm not fucking doing it. I was like, I can't like can't operate from all this like I just can't it just needs to be fun or not gonna do it.
Cynthia Stamation: Yeah.
Sasha Pearl: And then the fact that I have the sugar daddy story that I just told you, that is cra And
Cynthia Stamation: Yeah.
Sasha Pearl: all I wanna do is make millions of dollars, Cynthia. All I wanna do is make millions of dollars.
Cynthia Stamation: yeah, you can. yeah, you can. You have to make millions of
Sasha Pearl: Yes.
Cynthia Stamation: dollars. I mean, you literally do. Imagine what you'll I mean, imagine how many people you'll be able to reach. Imagine how many people you'll be able to help. You know, I mean, to me, money is just creation. And so I want that for you so bad.
Sasha Pearl: Mm-hmm.
Cynthia Stamation: Cause you're your money clown
Sasha Pearl: Thank you.
Cynthia Stamation: is a good time. I've never had somebody's money showing up as a clown before.
Sasha Pearl: look like a c I kinda look like a clown too today, you know what I mean? I'm like, what? That's perfect. No, I I've always innately
Cynthia Stamation: I've never had anybody show up as a clown, but it was like boom. Mm-hmm.
Sasha Pearl: Always been innately playful though. Like it's always like it needs to have some sort of gesture to it. It's part of my archetype for sure. As much as I'm like the wise sage and the intuitive, I'm also need the play. Like it can't always be so deep. It has to have that play and that lens and that bridge. So, and I a lot one of my core gifts is creation itself. and all I do is all I want to do is create and play. It's just it feels sometimes in this 3D world, it's really hard and it feels like it's pushing up a boulder of a mountain, especially when we're layering in the energetics. And I'm like, guys, don't you see it? And they're like, we don't see it yet. I'm like, But I think when it happens, it will explode. It just feels like I'm still trying to unlock it. I'm just trying to unlock it still.
Cynthia Stamation: I hope so. Yeah, I hope so. Well, keep doing your wonderful work in the world to help help us unlock it
Sasha Pearl: Yeah.
Cynthia Stamation: because I mean we need it. And I love that you said my money is like I treat it like a sugar daddy, because that's one of the exercises I do at my events, is we look at your relationship with money. And so I will ask this series of questions and then I'll say, What is your relationship? you know. Is it like a one night stand, you know, here today, gone tomorrow? You know, is it a sugar daddy? Are you in an abusive relationship where you talk poorly about your money? You know, and then my favorite thing is I'll ask people, so you know, if your money was a person, how how would they act? Right? I mean, could you imagine if I told my spouse, you know, I want you to be there for me whenever I want, but I'm not gonna pay attention. I'm not gonna invest in you at all. I'm gonna totally ignore you, but I want you to support me.
Sasha Pearl: Yeah. Feels one sided.
Cynthia Stamation: It's one sided, right? Where everything is energy. So I love it that you said sugar daddy.
Sasha Pearl: my god. It was like so profound to me. And I was like, like I literally out loud gasped. I was like, what the actual fuck? I love money. Why is this that? What's happening here? so yeah, it's been it's been very interesting. When you asked about your money story, what what does what visualizations come out for you? Or what's your
Cynthia Stamation: Well, I'm
Sasha Pearl: relationship with your money look like?
Cynthia Stamation: totally. Well, I'm always working on my money, just and so for me, I'm I'm I'm never going to be that person that is just content. Like there's always something else I want to build or I want to do or I want to expand. And so I will just continue to you know make a money goal, achieve it, and then move on. But my relationship with money is like I I love my relationship with money. I just know it's wide open communication. It's very intuitive. we you know, when we were in our health crisis, we had this, you know, massive bill. It was like sixty, sixty, eighty thousand. And I just knew that it was going to be okay. And so I just talked to my money and I was like, look, I'm not gonna worry about this. I got other things to think about, but you know, I'd really like for this to be resolved in in six months. And so I, you know, made kind of made some calls to my health insurance, but I was like, I'm not gonna bother. I'm not gonna worry about it. Just, you know, fix it for me, please. And then I got this call from my health insurance that was like, Hello, I'm Janessa. I'm your concierge, and I'm here to take care of whatever you need. I'm like, what? I think that. universe just made that up for me because I mean, no, like whoever called, she went in, she went through every single claim, and there was like 150 claims, found out that half of them were miscoded out of network, recoded them, and all of that went away. I mean, incredible. So that's my relationship with money. I'm starting a new yeah, I'm starting a new launch
Sasha Pearl: I don't love that.
Cynthia Stamation: of a program. and like you know, I'm putting a lot of money in right now, but I just know that I just know that that is exactly what I'm supposed to do. Like my money's like, you got it, you got it, you got it. So yeah. And you you already have the because your money
Sasha Pearl: I love this. So for someone who's
Cynthia Stamation: already spoke to you. So all you have to do is ask your money questions. You know, and if you in a bind, call me. Yeah.
Sasha Pearl: I always forget, Cynthia. I forget. I'm so human sometimes. I forget. I like I say some profound shit and I forget I say it because it's out of my energy field and then I have to relearn it again after so much pain and struggle. It's crazy. Over and over and over again.
Cynthia Stamation: Yeah, I think we all do that.
Sasha Pearl: So I love thank you again. That like even like receiving that message about the clown, like feels so like it just feels I was like, I think I'm going to cry because it felt so like. True. It feels so true. Felt so true. yeah. yeah. I was like, yes. No, thank I'm just glad you shared it. And thank you for sharing it. so good. So
Cynthia Stamation: so happy. Thank you for the feedback 'cause you know as long as just me and my, you know me and my office. Welcome. My pledge.
Sasha Pearl: for someone though who is wanting like what is like a daily small practice for people to start talking and speaking to their money in a way that they're like being besties with them. You know, like little like
Cynthia Stamation: Yeah. well, you can you can really just start, just like you did. You can do automatic writing. you can go in, close your eyes. Truthfully, though, you most as you're doing it, you need to ask, is this a clean channel? Right. Because if you
Sasha Pearl: Mm, okay.
Cynthia Stamation: are you know, it's like anything, right? If you are in a relationship. With somebody, but your your heart's been broken five million times and you haven't healed the pain, then you're gonna be in relationship with someone assuming that they're always gonna act like a jerk, right? That they're gonna hurt you because that's how you're seeing it through your projection. and so you can go in and you can ask, what what will my money tell me? And you'll get the level, you'll get the answers according to what you can receive in your capacity, right? And so you'll receive some information that'll that could totally change your life. And then I would always ask your money. Okay, help me find someone to guide me or help bring someone to me. Like we always forget this part, right? And so, you know, your capacity will be limited based on how much money junk you have in order to communicate with your money, but you can always ask your money, help me. You know, send somebody to me. you know, I'm totally open. And, you know, send a guide, send an angel, send a human, you know, send a send a course, send a book, you know, send an event, and then that will help you know, get you get you further along. But to start, I would say definitely just close your eyes, go into med meditation, ask for your money to come into your presence, have a conversation with your money, like in a heart, you know, in a heartfelt kind of space. And then the other, automatic writing is just it's so good. It's so fast. And so just start, all right, money, what do you have to
Sasha Pearl: Yeah.
Cynthia Stamation: tell me? And just keep writing. What do you have to tell me? What you have to tell me? What do you have to tell me until something comes through?
Sasha Pearl: I love that. And then what if it's what if something comes through and you're like, I don't like what just came through? How can
Cynthia Stamation: Ha ha.
Sasha Pearl: you rebuild? So essentially it's like, how do I rebuild that like you're like, shit, I didn't realize I was ignoring you and treating you like shit and I was performing for you. How what's that, what's the next step after like getting all the information, receiving the awareness around money to then rebuilding the relationship with it?
Cynthia Stamation: Yeah, I would say on that front, if you have a modality that you personally work with that you can work with, I would do that. You know, just in general. if not, I would seek a coach, an event, someone outside of yourself. but if you get something if you get an answer that you don't like with your money, first have to ask, you know, is that really true? Right? Because there's gonna
Sasha Pearl: Mm-hmm.
Cynthia Stamation: be in all answers that we get, some of it will come you know, from our ego to scare us, to keep us small. And so that could be one. or it'll come from like our soul soul and and we don't like the answer, but we know that it's true, right? And so, you know, I would just I would always just keep asking, you know, is this true? What can I do? 'cause if if one answer can come to you, then you know, more can. But
Sasha Pearl: Mm-hmm.
Cynthia Stamation: most of the time if it's outside of our own knowledge base, because we're in our own story, then we'll need somebody on the outside who will who w will be able to help us a lot faster.
Sasha Pearl: love that. So what is what's the you mentioned briefly this program that you're investing in right now. What is that, what is the program that you are working on? What's your creation in the world right now?
Cynthia Stamation: Thank you for asking. I'm so excited about thank you. okay, so this is called the Intuitive Business Builder. And this is it's gonna be a membership monthly, and this is the program. Like, if I could put a dream dream program together, this is it. This is for this is for the people where I'm like, why aren't you making six figures or multiple six figures? Like it just doesn't. It it I don't understand. Like, you know, you're so good and you do so good at much good in the world, like, you know, the people who are helping people, you need more money because you need to take care of this vessel, you know, the self-care so that you can then expand your energy and take care of more people. And so this program has come out of me really wanting to help people who are already established double their income. make six figures or more. And then it's for people who are in a really crappy job, right? They're in a crappy job. It is like literally sucking their soul. And they either know what they're, you know, they're trying to do like maybe a side gig, or maybe they're coaching on the side or they're healing or they're, you know, starting, but they haven't launched because they don't know how to do it fully. Or for people who just don't know, but they know they gotta stop doing what they're doing. And so the intuitive business builder, it's gonna have multiple touch touches a week. the first thing it will be is a Monday motivation.
Sasha Pearl: Fashion, we had some issues with the audio uploading, and of course it cut off when she was describing the beautiful community that she is opening in August. the Intuitive Business Builder membership, And this month only there is a special. Normally the membership is $475 a month, but if you pay in full for the year, it drops it down to $250 a month. This will be the lowest it is ever at. If you are a woman building a business and you want the mindset and strategy work, now is the time to jump in. Go to leadinthefeminine.com and share it with any of your friends you also want to see succeed. Okay, that is it for this episode. I really hope that you enjoyed it.
